Comments on: The Psychogenic Thesis for Environmental Diseases – No Value for Science, Destructive for Legal Rights http://www.csn-deutschland.de/blog/en/the-psychogenic-thesis-for-environmental-diseases-no-value-for-science-destructive-for-legal-rights/ Environmental Medicine Matters Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:18:41 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: CaptainJack http://www.csn-deutschland.de/blog/en/the-psychogenic-thesis-for-environmental-diseases-no-value-for-science-destructive-for-legal-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-3691 CaptainJack Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:22:12 +0000 http://www.csn-deutschland.de/blog/en/?p=2143#comment-3691 Interesting discussion. Bullshit was definitely the overriding theme during the 50-year period the tobacco companies were allowed to lie about the health effects of tobacco. Now, some of those same so-called expert witnesses (from the tobacco debacle) are using bullshit again to lie about the health effects of mold and mycotoxins. When is the government going to put a stop to this bullshit? Interesting discussion. Bullshit was definitely the overriding theme during the 50-year period the tobacco companies were allowed to lie about the health effects of tobacco. Now, some of those same so-called expert witnesses (from the tobacco debacle) are using bullshit again to lie about the health effects of mold and mycotoxins. When is the government going to put a stop to this bullshit?

]]> By: Siegfried Fischer http://www.csn-deutschland.de/blog/en/the-psychogenic-thesis-for-environmental-diseases-no-value-for-science-destructive-for-legal-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-3475 Siegfried Fischer Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:18:54 +0000 http://www.csn-deutschland.de/blog/en/?p=2143#comment-3475 PS. Dr. Merz has truly raised a worthy argument which needs to be explored in even greater detail. It is just amazing, that any serious trade in the world can indeed be legally operated on the basis of bullshit. How about trying surgery, aviation, space-technology et al. with this kind of wheeling and dealing and forcing participants to use this kind of suicidal service then? PS. Dr. Merz has truly raised a worthy argument
which needs to be explored in even greater detail. It is just amazing, that any serious trade in the world can indeed be legally operated on the basis of bullshit. How about trying surgery, aviation,
space-technology et al. with this kind of wheeling and dealing and forcing participants to use this kind of suicidal service then?

]]> By: Siegfried Fischer http://www.csn-deutschland.de/blog/en/the-psychogenic-thesis-for-environmental-diseases-no-value-for-science-destructive-for-legal-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-3473 Siegfried Fischer Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:50:45 +0000 http://www.csn-deutschland.de/blog/en/?p=2143#comment-3473 Dear Silvia, maybe the arbitrary and stereotype diagnosis of psychosomatic or mental disease for intolerance against environmental pollutants (or MCS/TILT) from the part of IME's (=Independent Medical Examiner's), who are in reality Government employee's , deserves no other predicate/rating, but bullshit,although I am not sure as to whether or not sophisticated ladies could be encouraged to use this word in this or other kind of setting. Men would most likely argue: "True bullshit simply has to be called bullshit". In circumstances like this I instead heard a lady say: "This is horse-feathers", and she retired from the dispute immediately. This maybe an effective substitute for bullshit, expressing the same thing-more elegantly. Bullshit is a typical American phenomenon. I have heard it on all kinds of occasions , and people using it have always turned me off, because I never had enough time to consult with natural science and mathematics to prove objectivity in a daily transaction or medical service. The only way for selfprotection is to stay away from IME's or to take a certified Videographer and Court Reporter along to such an interview or exam. S. Fischer Dear Silvia,

maybe the arbitrary and stereotype diagnosis of psychosomatic or mental disease for intolerance against environmental pollutants (or MCS/TILT) from the part of IME’s (=Independent Medical Examiner’s), who are in reality Government employee’s , deserves no other predicate/rating, but bullshit,although I am not sure as to whether or not sophisticated ladies could be encouraged
to use this word in this or other kind of setting. Men would most likely argue: “True bullshit simply has to be called bullshit”. In circumstances like this I instead heard a lady say: “This is horse-feathers”, and she retired from the dispute immediately. This maybe an effective substitute for bullshit, expressing the same thing-more elegantly.

Bullshit is a typical American phenomenon. I have heard it on all kinds of occasions , and people using it have always turned me off, because I
never had enough time to consult with natural science and mathematics to prove objectivity in
a daily transaction or medical service. The only way for selfprotection is to stay away from IME’s
or to take a certified Videographer and Court Reporter along to such an interview or exam.

S. Fischer

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